Slaying Scooter Libby

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#1 30 April, 2015 - 11:15
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Slaying Scooter Libby


Some of you may be familiar with the "Scooter Libby Effect" whereby important information that should be remembered isn't because one didn't realize that it was important information at the time of encoding.

So my question to you all is, if you had to devise a framework for determining if (non-obvious) information were to be important in the future, what would your framework look like?

27 May, 2015 - 07:52
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I'm not among those familiar with the Scooter LIbby Effect. However, I would dare to say that if something is important enough for me to want to encode it, then I doubt the Scooter LIbby Effect would make any difference as anything that I encode I do so for a possible future recall.

Your argument seems to be saying, if you want to remember something you will remember it because you want to (it is important). That certainly does help but what helps even more (in my opinion) is encoding. If you've done that, I would think you are ahead of anyone who just knows he/she has to remember something important but does not encode and uses no other memory method to memorize the important data. Also I'm not sure I understand your question: are you asking about how to memorize things not knowing what information about those things you will need to recall?

22 October, 2015 - 07:57
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Hello Groat,

It sounds like you are talking about "awareness".
This type of skill can sometimes be seen being practiced by really good:
Athletes, Lawyers, Doctors, Technicians, Customs Brokers, Special Ops soldiers, CIA Analysts, and even Scouts. Basically anybody that has to absorb large amounts of information for practical use later.

The deliberate conscious practice of absorbing information for practical use later, is a sure fire way of improving "awareness"..... but it is time consuming and memory strategies make it only marginally easier.

Why?
It is you retraining how your mind sees data.

EXAMPLE
So you are looking at a bird STANDING on a fence. The bird has legs but just like humans legs, bird legs with joints can be POSITIONED...& that changes your description of posture. Before you move on to feather color, notice from the BEAK type whether the bird is primarily a seed, eater, scavenger, fruit eater,etc... for that changes your assessment of nativity to the area.

The point I am trying to make is that your mind needs to be encouraged to see EVERY detail in the light of the now, without rushing to conclusions.
Just the facts.
When the whole picture is gathered, then you draw a conclusion not before. Hence you may have to read a written passage multiple times, memorizing different elements in each pass before being able to determine what's IMPORTANT.

Often the end result is VERY different from the scenario in which you assess/analyze and judge something to be important at every step of your observations on the 1st pass.

Patience is required to gather information without assigning it a value until ALL the data has been collected.
Then you can usually discover what's really important.

A BIT OF MOVIE HISTORY
If you have ever seen the movie "The Matrix", you would have begun to understand the shift in what is considered important in the thinking of the main character "Neo" in order for him to do amazing tasks within the matrix.

Because the storyline allowed technology that uploaded Gigabytes of data directly into the memory of the primary characters before a mission, memory loss was not an issue in this movie.

Cheers,
Simple Guy.

22 October, 2015 - 10:44
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I like to watch FBI type training videos. I tell myself that it's good for this kind of awareness training.

Back in 2000, I and some offers argued for them to be brought back in to the WMC. Dominic argued against us because he said there was no way to train for such an event. *sigh*

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