Placing 2 images in one loci for long term retention

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#1 11 October, 2017 - 13:15
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Placing 2 images in one loci for long term retention


Hello, I'm kind of new to the forum and I've been practicing the method of loci everyday for the past 15 days. I started out by memorizing a book that I like, which is the third book of the Magician saga. Of course not word for word, instead I've created one loci for every 2-3 pages, or whenever something important to the plot happens, so I can recall the whole story chronologically and name some important details. I've also found out that creating loci is very fun.

My question is: do you think placing 2 images per loci is a good strategy considering the long term? Or should I switch to a simpler 1 image per loci method? 2 images per loci has been working out for me, but I'm kind of scared of the possibility of it becoming a confusing mess once my memory palace gets bigger.

11 October, 2017 - 17:26
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Well, speaking from my own experience, the use of two images helps the memorization if you can conect the two with one story. If you combine the linking with the memory palace and spaced repition (reviewing), i don't think you gonna have any problems. However, if you do not review, it can get quite tricky. Of course, memorization is a highly subjective area, so what worked for me might not work for you. Hope my advice helps! Bye.

11 October, 2017 - 19:37
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I've read on spaced repetition and I've only heard good things about it. Never thought about combining it with the method of loci, do you have any experience with this? If so, how did it turn out?

12 October, 2017 - 03:31
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Something I noticed over time, as Ark mentioned is that multiple images can interact, which increases their memorability. The most simple form is found in methods like PAO, where you combine a person, an action and an object (each resembling a number or other abstract attribute you like to remember, like a card) and create one image with it.

There are also more complex things. You could have two persons on one loci, which is good for interaction purposes. The hard part is applying order. In PAO, the nature of the method creates the order, but in PP (person-person) systems or OO (object-object) systems you lack the order. So you need to think of something else to give it order, if the order is important.

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I've read on spaced repetition and I've only heard good things about it. Never thought about combining it with the method of loci, do you have any experience with this? If so, how did it turn out?

If you want to remember information long-term, I believe there is no alternative to spaced repetition. Even the information I have in my head for years, I need to revisit is sometimes as the brain loses information that goes unused.

12 October, 2017 - 14:27
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Mage,

Ark has a good point. When I memorize information, I sometimes have seven or eight pieces of information in one loci. The other day, I wanted to memorize how to start a fire in the wilderness without matches. There are seven ways to do it: 1: Flint and steel, 2: Bow and drill, 3: Hand drill, 4: Mixing potasium permanganate and sugar, 5: Batteries and wire, 6: Gunpowder from a bullet, and 7: A convex lens and sunlight. So I have seven pieces of information to remember and I want to only use one loci. To memorize a lot of information like this, you need to create a rhyme and then an image of the rhyme. I used the following phrase: Method pebble bend, auger potpourri vend, tension coil pop, bulging lens. Method (method of starting fire) pebble (remindes me of stone like flint) bend (reminds me of a bow) auger (an auger is a drill) potpourrie (similar to potasium permanganate) vend (vending machines sell candy or sugar) tension (batteries have electrical tension) coil (wires are coils) pop (as in a poping bullet) bulging lens (a convex lens bulges outward). If this is too complicated, don't worry about it too much. The most important point is to create a rhyme using keywords that correspond to information you want to remember and then creating images for the rhyme words. I created images to this rhyme and put it in a loci, but it's weird and besides the point. I hope that helps.

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