Need help with association with conjunctions for language learning

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#1 3 January, 2017 - 01:51
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Need help with association with conjunctions for language learning


Evening everyone!

This is my first post here, so I just wanted to start off by saying hello to you all.

I'm currently learning French, and in 141 days (By duolingo's tally) I've maybe learned around 500-600 words maximum. I recently discovered Dominic O'Brien's techniques for language learning, and having heard him marvel about the ability to learn a language in mere days has inspired me, but also stumped me. I'm beginning to understand how imagining scenes can word for Nouns and Verbs, as they are things you can think of directly, but concepts and lengths of time are confusing me a little bit. For words such as 'Si├Ęcle' (century) and 'Hier' (yesterday), how can you set a scene in order to associate those words as they aren't objects or actions?

Another example is seasons- Dominic says to set the scene you should start with the Key Image from the Foreign word, and the location for the English translation, but 'Hiver' (Winter) for example, how would you associate a location within your town with Winter? I was able to associate 'Shiver' with 'Hiver', but I wouldn't know what to do next. Another example is conjunctions such as 'Also', how would you find an image for words such as Also?

If this is plain as day, I apologise for my naiveness, but anyone who can shed some light will be appreciated greatly!

3 January, 2017 - 16:00
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I thi02nk perhaps you're overthinking this a little. Once you have formed an image (like a man dressed up in winter garb, standing knee-deep in snow, and SHIVERING), that's really all the imagining you need to do. No need to use a memory palace, or a peg, or anything else. With a little review, you'll eventually come to remember that "winter" = the image of the SHIVERing man, and you'll instantly have "hiver". Of course, "hiver" is pronounced much differently than the English "shiver" (closer to "E-vair").

"Siecle" to me sounds a little like "cycle", so I might imagine a man on a CYCLE riding into a giant calendar with the year 2100 (or some other century-ending year on it). When I'm trying to recall the French word for "century", I'd imagine that giant calendar, and remember the CYCLE crashing through it. Your brain will learn to make the jump from "cycle" to "siecle".

I don't know if I'll be able to help you much with conjunctions or pronouns, things like that. But maybe there are sufficiently few of those that daily review can drill them into your brain, along with software like Duolingo.

3 January, 2017 - 15:08
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Ah, okay. I do see what you mean, and if it is as simple as that, great- but I think the reason I got a bit stuck was the whole idea of being in a town. So what you're saying is, for my town, I can stick with just Nouns, Verbs, and Adjectives, and then for these other words such as periods of time or seasons don't need to be linked with the town at all?

For your last paragraph, perhaps maybe I was overestimating the amount of words like that there are, and so you're definitely right, I may not need to use the techniques for these words.

3 January, 2017 - 16:06
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Liamios, what I'm saying is that for vocabulary you don't need a "town" at all. If you're using a town, then you're using it as a memory palace, or a journey. A memory palace is fantastic for remembering sequential information, such as phone numbers, lists of things, random numbers, playing card sequences, things like that. For vocabulary, it's enough just to make an association of the word with the image you're using to remind of you of the definition of the word.

4 January, 2017 - 03:23
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Ah, so I was just really overcomplicating it unnecessarily. Oh well, thank you! I will try this.

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