Memory Technique For Images

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#1 12 September, 2017 - 15:28
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Memory Technique For Images


Hello All,

I'm doing the app.memoryleague.com images training. I've looked far and wide for good strategies to remember series of images and see that other people on the platform are memorizing 30 images in less than 20seconds.

My current strategy is using the linking method to chain the images together like a story. However with similar images or difficult to connect (storyline wise) its costing me a lot more time. I think there is still room for improvement by practice, but my feeling tells me that there should be a better system for this.

I've read somewhere that more professional people are using a system based on textures, but i'm unable to find any details as to how this would work.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?
- Keep working on linking method
- Some more information on how this 'texture' method would work
- Other successful systems that are being used for this

Thanks you for your time and my apologies for any bad use of language, as i'm not a native english speaker.

Kind regards,

Gert

12 September, 2017 - 19:13
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Greetings. I am far from the fastest, but I've done 30 images in around 18 seconds. I use a memory palace, and I put two images on each locus. I quickly make a little interaction between the two images. For example, if the first image is a rock and the second image is a man holding an umbrella, I'll imagine the rock crashing down into the umbrella. Nothing fancy or involved, just a quick interaction. Obviously, some interactions are easier to imagine than others, but it all gets better with practice. The last four images I just grab verbally to myself, e.g. "Rock, Baby, Dog, Clouds". Once the recall starts I quickly put those four into place so I can forget them and get back to putting the other 26 in the right order.

I have five memory palaces with 15 loci each that I use for practicing images, and I rotate through them. Just do it over and over again and you'll get better doing this.

12 September, 2017 - 22:27
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Simon's peg list system seems to work much faster than a linking method (though I don't know about memory palaces). It might be worth experimenting.

You create a list of pegs with actions -- one for each letter of the alphabet:

  1. A - axe (chopping)
  2. B - ball (bouncing)
  3. C - clingwrap (wrapping)
  4. D - digging
  5. E - eating
  6. etc.

That gives you 26 pegs. The last four images are held in memory and recalled first.

13 September, 2017 - 05:19
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The 'textures' system you've read about is probably not for Images in Memory League, but the Abstract Images discipline in WMSC competitions (which has now been replaced by Random Images in IAM competitions). That was a different discipline with sets of black and white random shapes with textures. Some competitors figured out that the software that produced the images only had a limited number of textures, so they created a system to memorize the textures and ignored the shapes.

13 September, 2017 - 10:23
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Thank you all for your valuable input!

16 September, 2017 - 06:27
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I was wondering if you are using the story or the link system? The story and link systems are conceptually separate.
You may be taking longer because the story system gets more difficult as the story gets longer because added items must continue the story; making some 'sense' with regard to continuity.
The link system does not get more difficult with added items because you only ever associate two items at a time: there is no continuity to maintain. (As pairs of items get associated, you need not worry about the previous association).

19 September, 2017 - 02:40
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Thank you so much for the enlightenment

19 September, 2017 - 07:13
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Very close to Simon's peg list system, I just recite 1-26 number pegs to do that task.
Referring Josh Cohen 's question

It might be worth experimenting.

I trained for about 2 months and now I can barely remember 25images in 30second.
Yet, I am improving ,I think

Quote:
under 20seconds
seem to be happening in one more months.

19 September, 2017 - 07:15
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For reference

23 September, 2017 - 21:02
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I also use a memory palace rather than a link system. I have a dozen empty memory palaces of 30 locations each for cards and numbers using person-action-object for each location.

For words and images, I am finding it faster using a 120 location palace I have full of lots of stuff already - countries of the world, chemical elements, people, history - it seems that something pops out at each location which links easily to the word or image.

But I am not an expert - still in the developing systems and experimenting stage for competition.

Lynne

2 October, 2017 - 17:29
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Lynne Kelly, I admire the person who uses these memory techniques to memorize large amounts of practical knowledge - as you have done - far more than the person who uses them almost entirely for cards, random words, numbers, names and faces. So in my book, you are more inspiring to me than even the top memory athletes - because rarely do I hear any of them talking about, or demonstrating, the practical knowledge they have memorized. Despite that, the current memory competitions are excellent for training the memory, and spreading the word on the power of memory systems, as well as providing a community gathering for people interested in the art of memory.

22 October, 2017 - 19:04
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Hi Mnemon,

I only just saw this comment. I apologise. Thank you so much for making such a lovely comment. I am working on competing so I can compare all the different methods I have found. That will be the theme of my next book. I am finding memory at speed for short term quite a different mental process, even though it almost all boils down to the same thing: stories, imagination and memory palaces. When I have done more, I will try and explain the difference in thinking.

Meanwhile, I shall keep training!

Thank you again,

Lynne

22 October, 2017 - 20:03
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I, too, am more interested in longer term learning than in competing but of course competition brings out a different spirit, immediacy, and set of skills that can't possibly be harmful and might be helpful. I've also just taken a position as a pathology professor at a medical school. I am rather excited about seeing if I can somehow help the student learn to apply mnemonic technics to the massive amount of information in medical school. How can I structure my lectures, for example? Surely I can do better than stand up and do a linear information-packed conventional lecture!

23 October, 2017 - 14:49
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Maybe to complete this question: is there any android app to train on this while commuting ^_^
Sorry if it's out of topic. If you think so I'll open another thread but I believe it's kindof linked :-)

20 November, 2017 - 19:01
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You are welcome! Yes, I was away for a month, busy with work myself. But I just started a memory club with 20 members already, and weekly meetups.

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