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#1 1 July, 2018 - 05:06
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How I got sub 40s in 27 days


Edit: First title was "How I got 1min 38secs in Speed cards for only a week"

Hey guys. As far as you can see I've been here for two weeks and have a lot to learn yet. I already know the method of loci before so I didn't had a hard time to practice this because 1 year ago I tried memorizing numbers but I'm not that diligent so I only did it for 3 days and stop without really memorizing the whole system. And now I become interested I again when I watch this guys memorizing cards so fast. He's Alex Mullen.... and I thought it was really cool and satisfying to watch. And I just thought of myself. Could I achieve this kind of memory if I didn't stop the training 1 year ago. so I search about the memory systems.and I saw a bunch of different awesome system like Dominic system, Major system, PAO, Ben system, Simon and etc.

I also tried to build this system called Ben system and 3 digit major system when I saw a bunch of people that could memorize 300 digits in 5mins but got bored and discourage when I find it hard to build even though I know some sites that generate words for majors system... I am too lazy to build that big system I want something easy but powerful. I also tried this Dominic system and PAO Yeah its true that It's really memorable but I got bored because I only see person doing some weird stuffs with objects. So I stop making these systems and by searching I accidentally saw this person using a very simple and easy system that could go on par with larger systems. He is Wang Feng. He is using a very small 2 digit system not using PA or PAO.. his system is not really different with others in fact they are just the same because the idea is just to get an image for every single 2 digit. So I search about his records and saw that he could memorize a deck of cards in 24 secs that is insanely fast. Well, not as fast as Alex Mullen though. So I got hook by this simplicity and I built a 2 digit major system, 2 image per loci.

I am now practicing this so-called Speed Cards and the progress was not that bad but the first try was terrible.... it was 15 mins. HAHA! So continue to practice it without really worrying about the speed. And by the time comes as I practice every day for 2-3 times every morning until this week. I got the speed of 1mins 38secs its insane to think that I really got this far so early. So lemme tell you the story.

Every morning after I eat breakfast I do these drills and really helped me out. I do 3 drills.
1. I try to roll out the cards as fast as I can but consciously seeing the cards. Don't try to visualize the image for that certain card. The purpose is to exercise and to warm up your mind, hands and eyes. Now I can do it for 13-14 secs.

2. I try to visualize to images for that cards as fast as I can. The purpose is to easily see the combination of the images so you can easily imagine the combination when putting it to a locus and it should not be different from your normal speed. I can do it for 1min now.

3. The third one is to Imagine your journey as fast as you can. The purpose is to ready your mind to easily put the image and to switch for that certain place or locus without a problem. It takes 10-12 secs since I have 26 loci for speed cards.

Hope that helps! And I'm open too for any critic and ADVICE as far as I know there are a bunch of people here that surpasses this speed. You can comment down below your techniques coz this forum is made to help out people not to ignore them. :)

1 July, 2018 - 06:43
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Leave out some tips here to help us beginners make our progress much faster or your opinion. If you know some drills add it here... it would be a big help! TIA

1 July, 2018 - 11:00
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That's a great time. The world record used to be longer than 1:38.

1 July, 2018 - 19:33
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Wow, I haven't heard about that sir. Definitely a good news for me. Do you have any tips or advice sir?

1 July, 2018 - 22:28
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Update for today. It seems that this drills are really helpful for me. I haven't hit the plateau... rather I'm making progress every day.

1 July, 2018 - 22:31
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This is my progress on July 01, 2018

1 July, 2018 - 22:33
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This is update for June 29, 2018

1 July, 2018 - 22:38
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Update for June 26

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This update for June 25

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Update for June 24

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Update for June 24

2 July, 2018 - 09:57
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Great work. You might want to read through the long discussion here -- there are various tips from people:
https://artofmemory.com/forums/card-deck-memorisation-post-your-times-he...

2 July, 2018 - 20:48
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Thanks Josh, I'm gonna join to that too. But I'll continue to update my speed here too.2018-07-03-11-42-23.png

This is update for July 3 2018

3 July, 2018 - 23:57
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1st attempt.

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2nd attempt

Updates for July 4, 2018 no errors

4 July, 2018 - 09:09
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Nice work! If you can get down below 42 seconds you'll be matching the times of the top 100 competition scores. Have you tried memorizing cards on Memory League yet?

4 July, 2018 - 20:00
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Thanks Josh! I'm gonna have to try that too if I can get in under 40s cuz I'm not very good in digital.

4 July, 2018 - 20:02
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How do I change my username? I want to change it so other people can read mine.

4 July, 2018 - 23:00
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Send me a message with your new username (or email [email protected]), and I'll update it for you.

5 July, 2018 - 23:57
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This is my first attempt for today with 2 errors. As I tell you Josh I'm not very good in Digital. It's an android app

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2nd attempt but in real cards now. No errors

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3rd attempt real cards no errors

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4th attempt with 2 errors. I switch 2 card because I'm trying to go as fast as I can and it put a little psychological effect. I see an image 2 times for assuming that the 2♥ is 2♦ because of the color. It's both red.

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5th attempt with no errors but unfortunately unlike the rest I miss 1 image. But I figured ut out where it should belong since thats the only image with no pair yet.

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6th attempt with 6 errors. I totally forgot the images and tried to figure it out but I got nothing.

Note to myself: Eat before memorizing

Actually I made 7 attempts but I miss one card and didnt see because it stack under a card. I just realise that there are only 3 cards on the last part that should be 4 so I didnt count it. It should be at least under 1min. It would be a break for my 1 min barrier, what a pity I didnt make it.

I made an unusual practice for today, I normally practice 2-3 cards a day but there is something that made me want to do this.

This is the update for July 5, 2018.

Josh your site has a bug. I posted it July 5 but it says July 4. Also it just vanished withouth any reason.

I just FIXED it @Josh Cohen I think the reason why this website can't post this comment is bcuz of the EMOTICON that I put here.

5 July, 2018 - 23:09
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1st attempt I just broke to 1 min barrier. No error.

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2nd attempt no error.

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3rd attempt I don't know how the heck that happen. 2nd & 3rd are exactly the same speed. no error

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4th attempt, I dont know why I'm always getting error in this memory palace. I gotta fix it ASAP. 9 errors.

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5th attempt. I just broke the record again. No error

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6th attempt nothing special no error.

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7th attempt. no error

Update for July 6, 2018

5 July, 2018 - 23:25
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I'm doing 7 deck of cards everyday. Also I think the music distraction help me improve cuz my mom loves music, she's always listening to it when sleeping in the afternoon and I think I subconsciously learn to ignore that distraction. It's been 15 days now since I started again and I can say my improvement is fast(?) or above average base on the thread that I read here. I already know mnemonics before but didnt pursue it I was doing it for a week, not doing cards but numbers at least once a day but didnt mastered it. I'm not memory expert nor a card expert but I think the most essential to do and have is Practice, patient and ALWAYS set goals and do your 110% every trials you attempt.

5 July, 2018 - 23:33
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When I hit the consistent speed of 1:10secs I feel like my progress has slowed down(?)

6 July, 2018 - 03:40
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8th attempt: I just broke my PB again.
BMP file is not allowed so I copy it to my phone then post it in here.

Update for July 6 2018. Can't wait to make it under 40secs @Josh Cohen.

6 July, 2018 - 12:21
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Josh your site has a bug. I posted it July 5 but it says July 4.

You can fix that by going into your user settings and changing the timezone field to your local timezone. It will show California time by default, so if you're on the other side of the International Date Line, the dates will show the previous day.

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I just FIXED it @Josh Cohen I think the reason why this website can't post this comment is bcuz of the EMOTICON that I put here.

Sorry, UTF emojis aren't supported yet, but they will work after the coming upgrade. The core of this site was built around 2009 (before emojis were popular) and there are some bugs. We're overhauling the site at the moment, which will eliminate those bugs once the updates are live.

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BMP file is not allowed so I copy it to my phone then post it in here.

BMP images tend to be too large for the server. If you ever need to convert images from one format to another, you can use a free program called GIMP. Open an image file in GIMP, press ctrl-shift-e (or file –> export) and save it with a .jpg, .png, or .gif extension to automatically change the format. In general, if the image has sharp edges (like text) .png or .gif produce better quality images -- otherwise If it's a regular photo, .jpg is ideal (you can set it to 75-80% quality when exporting to keep the file size small).

How to convert image format with GIMP

6 July, 2018 - 14:05
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I liked reading your tip #1 about just looking at the cards quickly. I think I will try that. I also like your suggestion of doing 7 decks although I may not try it. Thanks for sharing. You are awesome.

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If I may offer a tip here it would be to mind your rate of correct card per second. Find what your average best rate of correct card per second is, and then go faster to see if that rate can hold at higher speeds. Try and find the speed at which your correct card per second rate crashes, and then focus on training at that speed. I'm not 100% sure that it is good advice but it is the best I have to offer right now. My best average cc/s is about 0.420 but when I hit 68 second a deck as average time, that rate is down to about 0.370, so I think I'm not going to try and go any faster over next month. I hate to have over 50% of the deck wrong.

6 July, 2018 - 18:38
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Thanks Josh! that explains why. Sorry for the trouble.

6 July, 2018 - 18:42
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Thanks Simon L. I just find it useful so I shared it. Also I got inspired when you and Lance T. are just startin out.

6 July, 2018 - 18:51
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If I may offer a tip here it would be to mind your rate of correct card per second. Find what your average best rate of correct card per second is, and then go faster to see if that rate can hold at higher speeds. Try and find the speed at which your correct card per second rate crashes, and then focus on training at that speed. I'm not 100% sure that it is good advice but it is the best I have to offer right now. My best average cc/s is about 0.420 but when I hit 68 second a deck as average time, that rate is down to about 0.370, so I think I'm not going to try and go any faster over next month. I hate to have over 50% of the deck wrong.

Yeah, thats seems good... I haven't tried that out. Some of my images are very sticky and easy to imagine but some are requiring to subvocabulize. That's the part I'm slow right now. Thanks for the tip!

Are you still using you Less L. method?
What's your PB in speed cards right now?

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Yeah, speaking of uploading photo. am I allowed to delete the photo in my storage? If yes, would it delete the photos that I uploaded in this thread too? if not what if I can't upload anymore?

6 July, 2018 - 23:05
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I'm not sure if it will let you do that, because it could break things on other pages, but if there's something you want to delete, send me a private message and I could assist. (If there is a message about reaching an upload limit, let me know.)