Flash card or Memory Palace ??

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#1 10 August, 2015 - 01:27
Joined: 2 years 3 months ago

Flash card or Memory Palace ??

Hi Everyone,

I am new to this forum. Since last weeks I learned mnemonic techniques to learn every kind of subject I want to know.
But there is one tehchnique I don't understand: Flash card.

I really love the concept of memory palace and I saw in many websites and forums that people use a lot flashcard to memorise vocabulary or subject taught at for school. But to me, this is kind of root memorization technique.
If I have,for example, created 1000 flash cards, to recall it would be difficult because the information is not store in memory palace so it is like placing informations into void. So how this method can be a good way to memorise for long term memory?

I know that to create an effective flash card, you need to draw vivid and memorable picture that tell a story. and other infomations symbolized par symbols but it is still store nowhere.

Thanks you for the help !

11 August, 2015 - 07:28
Joined: 2 years 6 months ago

if time is an issue and it usually is, my vote is memory palace every time. In my experience, once someone gets good at the memory palace technique, they'll never use anything else. plus, it is a lot more fun and you'll study more if you are having fun.

14 August, 2015 - 20:06
Joined: 4 years 5 months ago

I agree with LabDocFarmer totally. Flash cards all look the same, even with different words and images. You cannot incorporate physical movement. For me, a real memory palace is unbeatable. I have lots of them on the go all the time, adding more and more to them constantly. I can't imagine doing that with flash cards.

And welcome, shamir!

14 August, 2015 - 20:56
Joined: 2 years 3 months ago

If you can concentrate for enough time and don't have problem in imagining places ..Then you should definitely go for Memory Palace...

14 August, 2015 - 22:44
Joined: 5 years 9 months ago

I disagree with the previous speakers.

Flashcards are hugely effective as a memory tool, providing you link the front of the card to the back.
If you don't, then indeed becomes a rote memorizing tool, and this takes more time.

Why is this more effective than a memory palace? Well, in a palace you need to link both the front and the back of the card to the locus. This is a link of 3 parts.
If you just ink the front to the back you have a link of 2 parts which is easier to create and maintain.

This is how I learn a new language. I memorize new words by linking the words of the new language to words in languages I know.
If I should forget a word, I realize my link was weak so then I make a new, better, one.

17 August, 2015 - 01:15
Joined: 3 years 1 month ago

I use cram.com website, you can create your own Flash Cards.
I use it to memorise a deck of cards with my own images. It's certainly a good tool for practicing the images for your numbers and cards.

18 August, 2015 - 08:52
Joined: 2 years 3 months ago

Thanks everyone for your answers.
During last few days, I learnt a lot in this forum. This is really a great place to see the potential of mnemonic techniques.

About Flashcards Kinma, I agree that if you link the front and the back of the card you will create the same history as for memory palace but after experimenting both memory palace and flash card, I found memory palace more funny way to remember things. Just being able to place any information in any place and walk into it is just incredible.
The Galvino system is completly insane, we can build a huge database of knowledge. And this what I am interesting.

20 August, 2015 - 11:44
Joined: 2 years 6 months ago

Oh good. we need some controversy... I guess I'd have to push back on flash cards by postulating that flash cards are not really even a mnemonic IMHO. I do memory palaces a lot. I don't always use much of an action. or, I may just have loci 1 interacting with loci 2 depending on how to make it most memorable. I get the impression there is some bias against memory palaces based on matters which are not valid. Maybe because I have used them so much, I have figured out how to create them efficiently without making loci unnecessarily complicated. just imagining cole slaw spilling out of my sink (Slovakia) or Austin Powers standing by my column (Austria) works beautifully for me to remember the geography of these countries. I tried flash cards quite a bit. I ultimately found the "technique" of having all the info I needed to know on one, preferably yellow, sheet of paper to work better than flash cards -- at least then, I could often answer test questions based on some recollection of where on the page the information was located. Ronnie White is one of my role models in this stuff and a quick Google search does not turn up any connection with him and flash cards. In my experience, once someone gains experience with the palace, there is no going back.

22 September, 2015 - 17:29
Joined: 4 years 7 months ago

I personally use both together, in the sense that I turn most of my Anki cards into loci in memory palaces. In a sense though, I don't really feel like I'm doing "flashcards," since I think the value of Anki comes from its spaced repetition aspect. I generally build palaces as I do my initial review of my cards and then used the spaced repetition component to review my palaces. Every time I see the card, I reference the palace. I've found it to be a good recipe for keeping images fresh and generating strong long-term memories.

31 October, 2015 - 15:55
Joined: 2 years 4 weeks ago

I guess that is a very good idea. I just installed anki myself after reading a lot about spaced repetition and its advantages. My first idea was to put the items that I want to learn and memorize on the flashcards, then use mnemonics to better memorize them and afterwards anki to remind me when I have to recall them. I didn't think about using anki as a means to remind me when to recall an item stored in my memory palace! Is it working well? Can you recommend it?

1 November, 2015 - 21:51
Joined: 4 years 2 days ago

Same here. This works very well together. You can, for example, just label them like this:

Front: Starbucks - #001 - Counter
Back: Tisch - Table

Front: Starbucks - #002 - Cakes
Back: Stuhl - Chair

Front: Starbucks - #003 - Green Sofa
Back: Brille - Glasses

...etc. For each loci one card.

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