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#1 17 August, 2017 - 16:56
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3 digit number


When memorizing a 3 digit number, what do you find most helpful?

breaking the number into 2 digits and then 1 digit or 1 and then 2 digits?

for example : 671

6...71= Shoe--gun
67...1= Shiva--tie

Which way seems most intuitive and which is quicker? for me 1 digit then 2 digits is very intuitive yet slower.

Help would be appreciated!

17 August, 2017 - 18:15
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I usually do 2-1, unless using a 3-digit image.

17 August, 2017 - 18:35
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Same as above, usually use 2-1 except for some kinds of info.

17 August, 2017 - 22:32
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josh what is a 3 digit image?

17 August, 2017 - 22:56
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It would be an image using the three numbers
eg 671 = j ck t
Make the image for a jacket.

18 August, 2017 - 01:04
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josh what is a 3 digit image?

Like Eyelikepi mentioned you can make images with three digits. I use consonant-vowel-consonant though. It's a modified Ben System. 671 would be "bet".

6 December, 2017 - 00:48
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ok...say you have a 8 digit number and you are using PAO...how do you account for the final two digits?

14 20 21 23 : Thor/eiNStein/Tesla/Michal Jordan ( for example )

thor / using chalk to write on a/ Tesla coil : 14/20/21.....now what do i do with 23? ...is it just michael jordan sitting there doing nothing? or dunking a basket ball as he will usually do? I am not clear what to do if i am left with 2 or 4 digits after the 6 digits?
Does this make sense?

6 December, 2017 - 01:12
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I have tried two methods of which the second one is my favorite now that I moved to a 3-digit system

1) just the person doing him/her own action with his/her own object. It is easy to apply, but the downside to this are numbers like 232323.

2) image for no-number. I have a person, action and object meaning nothing. That way 23, 2323 and 232323 all have different images.

The second is my favorite due to how I build by system. I have a 3-digit system with 2-digit actions. Meaning persons and objects for 000-999 and actions for 00-99. On the side I have 10 objects for 0-9 and one PAO image for no-number.

With that I can make images for everything from one digit (blank-blank-object) to nine digits (Person-Action-Double object).

6 December, 2017 - 05:55
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Thank you! Is there a link to your current 3 digit system? i would love to know what you are using.

7 December, 2017 - 06:51
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I have yet to update it, which takes a lot of time. I have a few days off at the end of december so I hope to be able to do it then.

Here you can find part of it
https://artofmemory.com/forums/mayas-millenium-pao

7 December, 2017 - 09:25
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brownmiester, You've received all solid feedback here. I just will add another angle on the subject, which is not exactly in response to your initial question, but more about number systems in general.

Some people like myself are finding that a strict Person-Action-Object system may be more time-consuming to develop and practice than an equally useful Person/Object system. I've read through a lot of forum posts about what the high-level mental athletes are using, and it seems many are just assigning objects or people to each number and then having consecutive images simply interact with each other however they see fit in the moment. I'm currently in process of making a 3-digit system for my own use, and this is the route I plan to go.

7 December, 2017 - 09:32
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When it comes to speed I agree with slate. Having to form PAO images takes time and PO or P images go faster.

The difference is in two things: uniqueness and space.

Instead of the same image every hundred or thousand times, you only find the same image every million to billion times.

For speed numbers I dont use PAO, I use P. But I can memorize a phone number in one image which I can place on a single locus. Same with the full birthday and more stuff. That is the advantage of PAO :)

20 December, 2017 - 20:12
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yes pao is too much for me. I was like just pa or po ..yet trying to find the best way to remember peoples bday. If they are your friend how best to remember the Bday. Do you put them in a loci? and if so how do you remember which loci you put them in? I need something that once i see the person it will trigger a memory that will allow me to remember their loci or their b day. So i guess this threat would be what is the best way to remember a friends bday...not including year?

21 December, 2017 - 04:31
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Ever practiced on names and faces? That is the easiest way to remember it, but instead of the name you attach the PA-image to the face. If you also need to remember the name you could just have a story happen between the two images, but my guess is that if you care enough about someone to remember their birthday, you don't need an image to remember their name.

Also, you CAN remember the year too if you like, you just need to put an expra bit of information in it. For example, you can have 01 to 31 of your Persons be the days of the month, and 51 to 62 for the months. That way you end up with two Persons doing the same action, which can be done easily.

For example, John is born on the tenth of march 1993. 10 in my system is Sherlock holmes and 53 is Batman. The action at 93 is "blowing up". Say John has a rather big nose. So I could have Sherlock Holmes and Batman blow up Johns nose.

26 December, 2017 - 02:59
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attach a PA to the face is not easy for me.

Mayarra that seems like a nice way to do it just would require a little more brain power for me. Is that easy for you?

What i am trying to put together is this:

The day: i use my person but substituting the person im trying to remember.
The Month: I use a month Clue: Eg: July- shooting fireworks, Feb-kissing on valentines day, oct- trick or treat on halloween .
im trying to decide weather to have the person acting on the month which i would use as an object. Or to have them act in the location of the month. I guess its not easy to explain but easy to do.

Example:

I want to Remember Jin Jin, my friend who has a birth day of march 15.= 3/15
3-march- st patrick day and rainbows and ireland
15- dali lama sitting meditating in golden robe

3/15- Jin jin sitting meditating with her golden robe in ireland and a rainbow appears with a pot of gold.

Does this make sense ?

26 December, 2017 - 07:27
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In case of a large group of numbers like 74 17 36 01 93 74 902,
I will decompose the last three digits into PAO. Say a knight throws a pair of shoe=902.
Such that I know it must be 3-digits in the last location.

26 December, 2017 - 12:38
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I want to Remember Jin Jin, my friend who has a birth day of march 15.= 3/15

The method you described for remembering birthdays should work fine, as will almost any method if applied consistently.

If you ever make a 3-digit system, you can use those unique 3-digit images for remembering birthdays. Now that I'm doing a 3-digit system for my own use (using Josh's method), I'm going to remember birthdays like this: March 15 = 315 which is pronounced like 'meal'. So if a McDonald's Happy Meal is the unique image for the number 315, it can also act as a unique image for March 15th. I prefer this over the method I was previously attempting, similar to yours, with a month image and a day image interacting with each other. Each image for 31 days will be used about 12 times in a calendar year, and each image for 12 months will be used about 31 times in a calendar, whereas using a 3-digit system in the way I've suggested means each unique image for 365 (or 366) days in a year will only be used once.

27 December, 2017 - 08:01
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yes..that is interesting. Maybe i just dont have the kind of brain power that the other people have. That leaves me trying to find the most simple system for me. If there are unique images then i find it harder to remember and also to generate an image and more images to remember. If i have only 31 images for days then i already have them in my head. Then if i use my 15- Dali Lama theni already know when i attach it to someone that that is used for their birthday. I can then have that dali llama acting on 3- month which is associated with rainbows and golden treasures. So the month acts as my "o" and the person acts as my PV..
This is something i am trying to construct right now and am using everyones help to see which is easiest for them.

Slate- which system do you use and find most simple?
Mayarra- your feedback is always helpful.

Thanks

27 December, 2017 - 08:40
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Slate- which system do you use and find most simple?

As I mentioned I use a 3-digit Josh system for birthdays. For me it's simple, because I'm already using a 3-digit system for other things like phone numbers and addresses, so it just gives me another opportunity to practice those images.

If you want to stick with 1 and 2-digit systems the method you've suggested should work fine. It's basically a question of month image first interacting with day image or day image first interacting with month image. I would use 12 unique month images like you're doing, but Mayarra's suggestion of reusing part of your 2-digit system like numbers 51-62 for the months would work as well.

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