Ron White Memory Improvement: How To Improve Your Memory in Just 30 Days

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#1 12 June, 2012 - 15:36
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Ron White Memory Improvement: How To Improve Your Memory in Just 30 Days


Anybody read this? found it on sale. If so is it a decent read for a beginner? Thanks

13 June, 2012 - 04:35
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Haven't read it, but lots of info on his website and blog e.g. http://www.ronwhitetraining.com/news/finally-reveal-memorized-martha-ste...

13 June, 2012 - 23:39
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It is essentially the transcripts for my memory in a month CD album. So at times it reads choppy like a transcript but it covers all the basics (especially for a beginner)
Ron
p.s. This is the Memory in a Month program I am referring to http://www.brainathlete.com/memory-training-basic-package/ and http://www.ronwhitetraining.com/products-2/memory-training-program-344.html

8 May, 2013 - 20:43
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Ron White is a joke. His course is a COMPLETE rip off of Mega Memory. He was even to lazy to bother to change many of the pics in the peg list.
No respect.

8 May, 2013 - 22:59
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Hey Slatey. Thank you for taking the time to listen to my program as well as offer your review :)
All memory courses will consist of:

The Loci method developed 2500 years ago
story method
peg method
Phonics and the Major system

It is true Mega Memory teaches these, but all memory products do. It is also true that my peg list has some overlap with the Tree list. I worked for Memory Training Institute 1991-1992 (Trudeau founded this company with Blaine Athorne), then Memory Technologies Institute 1992-1994. At the time Memory Training Institue was owned by Blaine Athorne who also had Don Colton as an instructor. The company split and Memory Technologies was formed. Both companies were using the Tree list at the time. Now a new company 'Freedom Speakers' teaches the Tree list. It was a pretty accepted peg list that was taught by Trudeau among many. As an employee or contractor for all 3 of these companies I used some of the items but changed many that I liked better.

As you know the peg list is a very small part of both programs.

Regardless, thank you for taking the time to offer your review and your passion :)

Ron

9 May, 2013 - 06:10
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lol...thats the long way of saying ...yes, i did rip off mega mem. , repackage it, slap my name on it, but then minimize it.
All anyone has to do is go through both and see that they are 90% the same.
For what its worth the course works just like mega memory or any other system out there that is now
basically free on the web.
I just have no respect for people that rip off other peoples work and call it their own.
You can explain it away anyway you like as you''ve tried, but anyone whos considering buying it is
wasting their money as mega memory is free on the web along with w/ this forum and many other options such as a books for a very small fraction of the price.

Just my advice to others.
;)

9 May, 2013 - 11:36
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I think that no one has an entirely original mnemonic systems, and mnemonists shouldn't be expected to have unique images. The techniques have evolved over the last 2,500 years. The great thing about the memory techniques community is that everyone shares their different techniques and we're all building on shared knowledge. :)

For example, Harry Lorayne's major system was actually first published by Francis Fauvel-Gourad in the 1800s, and it borrows from earlier systems by Pierre Hérigone, Stanislaus Mink von Wennsshein, and others.

Some of Dominic O'Brien's number shapes can also be found in some of those earlier books. (I'd post an example, but I can't find the page at the moment.)

I think that some of the great things that Ron is doing are that he explains things very well and is open with his knowledge. I've learned a lot from his videos, and I've been hugely inspired by this video demonstration in particular.

There are different "schools" of memory techniques (Dominic O'Brien, Harry Lorayne, etc.) and I don't think there is anything out of the ordinary if his techniques are in the same "school" as Kevin Trudeau's. (I haven't looked into the Trudeau system so I don't know.)

The only one of Ron's books that I have is How to Improve your Memory in Just 30 Days, which I found on Amazon. I've only read 1/3 of it so far, but I think it's a good introduction to memory techniques. I know the basic techniques that I read there so far in the first part of the book, but it did provoke me to think about some things in a new way.

It also seems to me that Ron is also tirelessly working to spread memory techniques, so I have a lot of respect for that...

I think there is a benefit to reading as many books about memory as possible. Every author brings some new tips to the field...

9 May, 2013 - 16:57
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Slatey I also think you have been a bit harsh.
Many aspects of Ron's systems may be similar to mega memory but I think he has added some features of his own. Many authors have built on previous ideas and if other peoples ideas were off limits we would not have progressed at all.
You may feel Ron's products are expensive but you can choose not to purchase them, I haven't.
You mentioned that mega memory was free on the web but I could not find it; can you provide a link.

Ron may be running a business but he has also continued to be a helpful member of the memory sports community. He has made free resources and advice available on his web site.
You can often learn a little bit more from different people and I have found Ron's association list for names helpful and was fascinated by his training diary.
He has been a national memory champion (so I think worth listening to) and been a contibutor to this list. I feel he compares favourably to some other people running memory programs - GMS anyone?

20 May, 2013 - 10:07
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The calvalry to the rescue. :)
Simply put i've been through both courses, and if you dont think he ripped mega memory off , fine, i'm not here to waste time debating... just give my opinion to others considering buying it not to waste their money.
I just think its pretty damn halarious that 2 people commented on it without even going through and seeing both of them...lol.

23 May, 2013 - 07:22
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I've been through both courses and I returned Ron White's course because it was 80%- 90% mega memory.

18 April, 2016 - 20:37
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I have not read either course, but I plan on purchasing Mr. White's course. One thing that Mr. White has over Mr. Trudeau is integrity. To my knowledge, Mr. White has not scammed millions of dollars from gullible people; Mr. Trudeau has. Character is very important to me and, for that reason alone, Mr. White will get my money and my time over Mr. Trudeau.

From what I have gathered, there are possibly a dozen different techniques or systems which people employ for assistance with memorization. There are hundreds of books written on the subject. It seems to me that, to a certain extent, memorization is an objective skill that is mastered by using a combination of objective and subjective techniques. Objective subjects demand that information is used over and over again.

It seems similar to complaining that authors of mathematic books are plagiarizing their predecessors. Also, I remember having math teachers that I liked a great deal and others that I disliked a great deal. The ones of whom I was fond did not know a different mathematic. They taught the same mathematical principles as anyone else, but were either employing a well known, relatable technique or were simply more likable.

I have many books on traditional hand tool woodworking ranging from the mid seventeenth century to the late nineteenth century. The techniques on sharpening chisels or plane blades are virtually identical in every one of those books. I don't see much difference in sharing memorization techniques, but that is only the humble opinion of a complete mnemonic neophyte.

Sincerely and respectfully,
Mr. Redgate

20 April, 2016 - 07:14
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All memory courses are going to contain ideas or methods that have been done before. All are using general methods developed thousands of years ago. But everyone has a different slant on things, and a different way of learning or developing these skills, just like there continue to be new textbooks in Chemistry, Physics, Math, etc. that teach things a little differently. And that's a good thing, having different ways of presenting materials.

I've read Ron White's book, and I got some useful info from it, the same as I did from books by Lorayne, Hagwood, Foer, and O'Brien. And I continue to get great info from the websites and posts of mental athletes like Nelson Dellis, Alex Mullen, Lance Tschirhart, Ben Pridmore, Jonny Briones, Graham Old, etc.

I have tremendous respect for Ron White's talents, and even more for serving our country. That thing he did for the casualties of the Afghanistan war was amazing and touching.

24 April, 2016 - 22:07
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Hi All,

Just wanted to clarify if Ron White's memory course is legit or a scam? I had read reviews and based on reasonably favourable feedback had subscribed for his 30 day program. Although my card has been billed I have not received any acknowledgement from the site or from emails I've sent directly to Ron at the email address he provided. It looks to me to be an internet fraud! Do any of you'll have a similar experience and would appreciate any advise on how I can reach out to Ron/Brainathlete?
Thanks!

25 April, 2016 - 06:20
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Was it ronwhitetraining.com? It's definitely legit. Maybe send send him a message through this site. His username here is Ron White Memory Guy. He may just be busy or traveling and hasn't gotten to your emails yet.

25 April, 2016 - 06:33
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Ron white ,
I had bought your 30 day program and black belt memory but disappointed since there is no technique for verbatim , if you know do share

25 April, 2016 - 19:46
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It's legit. Ron is a friend and I used his course first. I don't know how much it costs now or if he has a new or different one out, but look around on this site for answers to your questions and ask what it is you're missing. Everything I know today I learned from this site, from my own experimentation, and from conversations with contacts I had made on this site. I'm sure if you want the knowledge in a nice and tight package and don't want to do any investigating then his will be just fine. If it is his old course though then I think you will be left with unanswered questions, as for numbers it goes into only one 100 object system, and if I remember correctly he didn't touch on cards at all. But I think he may have a different one out now.

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