# 1000 object community

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12 August, 2014 - 21:32
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I also started about 1-2 months ago
I have 1000 objects typed into my Memocamp account
I have flash cards for half of them (that is right, 500 flash cards)

I know probably 50% relatively quickly
I know probably 30% but it takes a few seconds
10% I can get but it takes a while
5-10% I forget especially:
xx6
xx8
66x
88x

Right now my 5 minute numbers for 1000 objects are still slower than when I use my 100 object system
(even when I train on my memocamp account with the "My Major System" option on to identify the word

Hopefully my the time I hit the 6 month mark I will be able to use the 1000 object system faster that the 100 object system
89x

5 September, 2014 - 16:41
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I don't know if I told you guys this but I learned my 1000 by placing them in a palace of 100 loci which I knew by number, 9 objects per locus in the order of a telephone pad. So xx3 objects were always in the top right corner. xx5 objects are in the middle. It was a little tedious but this whole process is I guess. I think you're far beyond needing to do that Ray, but whoever it was on the last page who said they can't recall the object list no matter how much time they were given might consider this option.

Also let me point out that in the Training section of this site, Josh made a script which randomly spits out the 10 groups of 3-digits separated by space, so you can pick the #xx that is most troublesome for you and read, visualize, or memorize items from only that group for more specialized practice. For example:

841 889 859 848 805 874 875 866 881 824 865 854 836 813 883 852 809 802 890 880 828 856 821 879 845 820 832 825 895 814 807 838 868 817 834 829 899 808 888 849 830 885 870 864 861 803 872 876 833 819 896 873 826 840 842 862 869 831 892 806 846 877 850 887 837 843 801 860 894 891 863 858 816 844 853 815 884 882 827 867 823 851 812 822 878 897 839 855 847 804 818 811 800 810 893 857 898 886 835 871

5 September, 2014 - 23:28
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Thanks for the tips Lance
I forgot about Josh's page with those triples

66x
69x
68x
and still need to do one for
88x

I am currently about equal when I do binary with my 100 objects and my 1000 objects
give me another month or two and I anticipate 10% improved performance using 3 digits vs 2 digits
I eventually want a 50% higher PB for the amount of time and energy I put into it!!!!

If anyone else is thinking of moving from 100-1000, please carefully do some homework and I say plan on practicing for 6 months....
THEN JOIN THE REST OF US USING 1000 images!!!!!!

Ray

6 September, 2014 - 10:05
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raykidwell wrote:

1)I am currently about equal when I do binary with my 100 objects and my 1000 objects

2)I eventually want a 50% higher PB

1) Yes!

2) Hey hey, now. No reason to limit yourself.

10 September, 2014 - 04:34
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Guys!

There is a really nice program for this based on the dictionary. I use it to memorize phone numbers with just a 2-3 words.

10 September, 2014 - 08:10
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thanks

22 October, 2014 - 11:27
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FYI, I'm starting a new set of 1000 images based on the idea I have just shared on my Less. L thread. I'm not in any hurry though. I wrote up 100 so far. But starting with the "s" is easy. If I can keep adding one hundred a week, I'll be happy with that.

Basically, I'm using two major consonants for first and last and a systematic middle vowel that also affect the nature or category of the image that I create. That middle vowel also gives the middle digit. I'm planning to have a lot of invented words in this set of 1000s. If anyone is interested, I'll put it up as I progress.

28 October, 2014 - 10:04
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simon L. wrote:

If anyone is interested, I'll put it up as I progress.

I'd be interested in seeing how it works. :-)

2 November, 2014 - 08:57
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Josh, here is how I started working on this:
First, I started giving a number to each vowel:
0 eh as in instr-eh- ment
1 Ah as in fl-ah-g
2 ee as in p-eo-ple
3 I as in dev-I-ce
4 o as in chl-o-r-o-phyll
5 u as in Nat-u-ral
6 ha or u as in C-u-lt
7 ay as in Corsay
8 i an in an-i-mal
9 ow or w as in p-ow-er or li-qui-d

Now, having done that I started what I had mentioned I was planning with just one vowel.
But since this is all a very new idea, I've had a change of heart after writing up aroud 270 pegs.

I've had another idea over the weekend and I think I prefer it. I've now created 30 pegs with it and I'll show you what I'm doing. It is the same idea except that I'm now using two middle vowels with two major consonants. The major system gives the two last numbers of a 3 digit number. The first vowel is a normal vowel drawn from the word as it is wirtten in the dictionary and it gives or translates into nothing, no number. The second added vowel is as I have listed them above. It gives both a number and the category it belongs to inspires the choice of the image for that number. Let's go over a few exemples.

Take the number 91 or BaT from the major system. Now bat may make you think of a baseball bat. A baseball bat in an instrument. So Let's say, Ba"eh"t. That is how I'm now going to call a baseball bat and the value for this is going to be 091.
For Ba"ee"t, people, I like to select a well known person who is associate with the word, a bat player or baseball player. So Ba''ee"t becomes a well-known professional baseball player. The number for him is 291.
For Ba"ha"t, in the cult category, I like to think of the cult of baseball and I represent this with team players as a whole as they cheer for each another after a home run or something like that. This will be number 691.
For Ba"i"t, the animal category, well then I think of a bat, the animal that flies at night, so a ba"i"t is a bat and is my number 191.
That is the system that I'm working on right now. I think it is a brand new idea and so I don't know for sure how well it will work but I think it is a pretty good plan.

9 November, 2014 - 06:38
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It will work well I'm sure. But unless it's much easier for you to fill out than the Ben System it might not be the better option. Just my two cents.

9 November, 2014 - 17:46
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Sounds interesting. I like the experimentation. :)

26 November, 2014 - 10:32
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LociInTheSky wrote:

It will work well I'm sure. But unless it's much easier for you to fill out than the Ben System it might not be the better option. Just my two cents.

Thanks your two cents on this. I'm about half way done right now. I think there are no easy ways to fill out any big image system, from experience...
The real reason I do it this way is because I want to learn to create words systematically and I want to learn to associate some vowel sounds to categories promptly. I think this will be the best way to achieving this.

23 January, 2015 - 07:35
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Hi guys! I'm about to finish my 3 digit major system, and there are some numbers I'm unable to fill, since I'm using English, and English's not my mother tongue.... Despite the fact, I've managed to collect 946 images after all. I've beeing trying to find an appropriate image via google for each object, so it's kind of neatly organised, at least, for me. I know that after a certain amount of time my brain comes up with his own stuff, so the picture from computer will be forgotten, but I've augmented my vocabulary while walking the path of creating such thing.

Here's the list, and thank you for your responses!

278,298
368,387
503,513,518,523,533,535,536,538,561,565,568,569,578,583
613,663,664,665,667,668,686,693,698,699
733,763,766,786,787,798
808,866,876,878,882,883,889,892,893,895,896,898
928,937,938,978,980

EDIT:
The phonetic code is standard:
1 - t, d
2 - n
3 - m
4 - r
5 - l
6 - sh, j, g, sch, ch,
7 - k ,g
8 - f, th, ph, v, w
9 - p,b

23 January, 2015 - 12:28
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Nightwalker,

278, Knock off, a count of 12 in a boxing ring?
808 Evasive. Many animals are good at hiding, pick one. Or maybe a slick politician?
I have no problem with a Box knife for 928. It is a knife with a sliding blade used to cut cardboard.
All the rest is hard, as you can see from the list I've suggested.

Good luck.

23 January, 2015 - 15:00
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Not all of these are objects -- some are just words that might be linkable to objects. Some of these are stretching things.

503 - Elysium (or here)
518 - Latifa
523 - Ellen-model or any Ellen M.
561 - legit or illegitimate
569 - legible or illegible (maybe something like this)
763 - cash machine
766 - ketch show
882 - Vivian
928 - epinephrine pin
937 - pemmican

24 January, 2015 - 12:50
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"Pennyfarthing" is such a cool image.

26 January, 2015 - 07:14
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That sounds so PaiNFull.

26 January, 2015 - 08:15
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The process of brainstorming can be terminated. All the required information has been acquired through help of other members combined with my own knowledge and a little bit of luck. Therefore I would like to thank all the participants at this project which will change my memory journey for ever.

All right, let's stop being formal, I owe you guys! ;) My greatest priority was memorable images rather than strict rules which makes me feel good, because those images are easy to visualize.... yet recognizing them may be problematic.

How long do you think it will take to get to some consistent 240 digits in 5 minutes? One friend who is not a member of this forum, but he reads it, was able to start with Ben system as a complete beginning and get to 200 digit in 5 minutes within 5 months... Adding my experience to this fact, in case I decide to participate at some competition in the summer, I should be prepared with regular training, right?

27 January, 2015 - 12:44
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wow!!

6 February, 2015 - 16:11
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Does anyone have a good object list for the BEN system? I did download the list of 1000 objects, however many of them are abstract or unknown to me. Any ideas on helping me as a beginner to fill in the difficult objects? Also,I do not have anything from 1001 to 2704. Any word lists in that range would be extremely helpful.

7 February, 2015 - 00:42
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I am one of th latest forum users who has finished their 3 digit system recently, and I was able to fill all of them until the last 50, that was the point when I asked others for help.

At the beginning, I asked myself "What and who I want to have there?" - I used to keep a piece of paper and pencil with me all the time, and whenever some thought struck me, I wrote it down. This worked for about 600 images, which was pretty good...And then I was passing all over them from the beginning and thinking about possible objects. I even used dictionary to help - and it really did.

Sometimes when I had no ideas, I used databases like the ones posted below, which sometimes helped, or at least, evoked thoughts which led to certain ideas. It's not the best thing ever, but better than nothing....And really, pay attention to making your own images, no matter how illogical it seems to you as long as it works.

I'm no expert at a complex system, I haven't learn mine yet, I'm just providing my experience.

9 February, 2015 - 18:08
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Glad you're done! Have you been reviewing them a lot? Even just reading down the list over and over is a huge help at first. It's almost necessary since 'better' drills like fully randomized visualization require fairly quick recognition to be an efficient use of time.

240 digits in 5 minutes is an impossibly specific scenario to address, but lightning fast recognition will get you there. I'd improve reading speed a whole lot (by reading down the list faster and faster, and after gaining a little speed, using the shuffled digits in 10 groups in the training tab before even bothering with linking and memo. My 2 cents. I drilled binary recognition sooooo much - now I'm visualizing the groups of 64 in 30-35 seconds each - but I still can't see them clearly at all compared to cards or digits for some reason. The fast recognition completely makes up for it. ALeman got up to 930 digits with binary after a short period of time. He was training the same way, drilling for reading speed. Don't see why it would be any different with digits.

15 February, 2015 - 16:23
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All I want is to memorize a deck in 2 min
10 decks and 1000 digits in 1 hour.

26 February, 2015 - 05:03
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even using ben system..how to memorize a deck you have to see and memorize 26 images!! in 25 seconds? just to pass the cards it may take 1 minute. to memorize maybe 2 minutes.

probably loci and nightwalker allready started beliving that they can beat the best players in the world.
Creyton Carvello is training for years decades and he cant memorize a deck in less then 3 minutes.

some people may say:
i learned how to do it in less then 30 seconds so everybody can do it. maybe they tell this but they dont really believe that because if they started training to bet the best it is because the best isnt so impressive for them.

i have allways been slow doing tests and exams...

27 February, 2015 - 06:24
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518 = Latvia? I picture the Freedom monument in Riga a women holding up 3 stars..
533 = Lemmy? Distinctive looking singer of Motorhead.
535 = Lamahl? Distinctive looking singer of Kadjagoogoo
561 = Lashed? As in tied down.
733 = Comma?
808 = Face-off? really bad film.
883 = Fave-me? Those stars on websites that let you say you "like" someone.
892 = Fabian? 50's heartthrob singer/actor.
928 = panther?
980 = Beavis.

9 March, 2015 - 22:10
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where i can find a big amount of lists of 3 digit numbers?

9 March, 2015 - 23:44
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taijutsu.memory wrote:

where i can find a big amount of lists of 3 digit numbers?

Images for 3 digit numbers ? Which system are you using ?

12 March, 2015 - 06:56
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taijutsu.memory wrote:

probably loci and nightwalker allready started beliving that they can beat the best players in the world.

Not until I actually started doing it. BOOM!

My best card score in competition is 1:09 or very near that. My best digit score is 220. The 25 second PB was my very best out of thousands of tries. The people who do that stuff in competitions given just one try are on another level.
And I KNOW you can spread through a deck of cards in under a minute. Try again...

17 May, 2015 - 17:51
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I need some suggestions. Here are the sounds... CVC or CCC works.

fOOg or f, s, g
fOOk or f, s, k
fOOb/p or f, s, p/b
fAg or f, g, g
fIg or f, l/d, g
fov or f, r, f
fef/v or f/v, m/w, f/v

17 May, 2015 - 18:57
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Quote:

fOOg or f, s, g

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fOOk or f, s, k

Something related to "physics"?

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fOOb/p or f, s, p/b

"Foo bar" is a common example used in programming. Not sure if that helps. :)


{
"foo": "bar"
}

Quote:

fAg or f, g, g

Can the "f" be a "v"? Maybe something related to "vague"?

Quote:

fIg or f, l/d, g

Fill-gas? (filling a car with gas)

Quote:

fov or f, r, f

Favela (is the "o" like in the Ben System? e.g., "tom")

Or Farfel.
Something related to "fearful" could also work.

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fef/v or f/v, m/w, f/v

"Fevgo" (φεύγω) means to leave or to flee in Greek. Not sure if that helps. That reminds me of Gandalf telling everyone to "fly you fools" when he confronts the Balrog in Lord of the Rings.

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